Posted by venu10 at 18:24 on 07 Aug 2007
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It is generally said that we are not and we can never be God or part of Him. In thus saying we appear to be making a twin-error – one, in reducing “we” to our limited physical body and two, in assuming that God is less than the whole or total or absolute. If by God we mean “the person (or entity) who/that created the universe, sustains it and would eventually end it” then the difficulty in imagining we are that is certainly difficult. This is because by the very definition we have separated the creator and the created. But if by God we mean “that which is and is not”, then we would see that everything is God in the varieties of His Truth, because there is no separation between the creator and the created. If everything seems so un-God-like to us in our normal state, it is only because we see with our limited understanding. The whole aim of spiritual teachings is to awaken us to our capacity to see without any limitations. Even that which perishes transforms itself into the state of is-not. Therefore it can be seen that the situation of duality does not deny the reality of non-duality.
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Brihad Aranyaka Upanisad
Petroc 07 Aug 2007 18:40
an ancient and profound Hindu scripture says this -He who dwelling in all things,Yet is other than all things,Whom all things do not know,Whose body all things are,Who controls all things from within, He is your soul, the inner controller,The Immortal. The Tibetan Book of the Dead has a similar idea. Recognizing the voidness of your own intellect to be Buddhahood, and knowing it at the same time to be your own consciousness, you shall abide in the state of the divine mind of the Buddha.
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How can I put this politely?
Janus 07 Aug 2007 18:41
Your first paragraph makes no sense, if you wish to use your words in their common usage. The rest is therefore equally meaningless. The rôle of philosophy is to clarify concepts and expose the logic of arguments. This piece seems to do the opposite.What do you think?
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Stuff and bloody nonsense
Christina Osborne 07 Aug 2007 21:53
Read the EucharistQuite clearly states that participants are part of God.It is not generally said, at least, not in Church every Sunday morning.try going yourself.Utter rubbish.
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Parts and Whole
venu10 09 Aug 2007 05:59
Dear Christina, If participants are part of God, isn't God part of the participants? Thus God is not an outsider.
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God and Consciousness
venu10 09 Aug 2007 06:14
Dear Janus, The idea that there is a God out there who is guiding us and is responsible for us is, I feel, rather infantile. To wonder who created everything is natural but the answer that an external agency, called God, did it is to evade deeper queries on the nature of God. It would be seen, when we go deeper into our notions of God, that the basis of both our questions and answers abide in our consciousness. Therein lies the clue to understand the creator and His creation.
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It is generally said that we are not and we can never be God or part of Him. In thus saying we appear to be making a twin-error – one, in reducing “we” to our limited physical body and two, in assuming that God is less than the whole or total or absolute. If by God we mean “the person (or entity) who/that created the universe, sustains it and would eventually end it” then the difficulty in imagining we are that is certainly difficult. This is because by the very definition we have separated the creator and the created. But if by God we mean “that which is and is not”, then we would see that everything is God in the varieties of His Truth, because there is no separation between the creator and the created. If everything seems so un-God-like to us in our normal state, it is only because we see with our limited understanding. The whole aim of spiritual teachings is to awaken us to our capacity to see without any limitations. Even that which perishes transforms itself into the state of is-not. Therefore it can be seen that the situation of duality does not deny the reality of non-duality.
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Brihad Aranyaka Upanisad
Petroc 07 Aug 2007 18:40
an ancient and profound Hindu scripture says this -He who dwelling in all things,Yet is other than all things,Whom all things do not know,Whose body all things are,Who controls all things from within, He is your soul, the inner controller,The Immortal. The Tibetan Book of the Dead has a similar idea. Recognizing the voidness of your own intellect to be Buddhahood, and knowing it at the same time to be your own consciousness, you shall abide in the state of the divine mind of the Buddha.
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How can I put this politely?
Janus 07 Aug 2007 18:41
Your first paragraph makes no sense, if you wish to use your words in their common usage. The rest is therefore equally meaningless. The rôle of philosophy is to clarify concepts and expose the logic of arguments. This piece seems to do the opposite.What do you think?
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Stuff and bloody nonsense
Christina Osborne 07 Aug 2007 21:53
Read the EucharistQuite clearly states that participants are part of God.It is not generally said, at least, not in Church every Sunday morning.try going yourself.Utter rubbish.
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Parts and Whole
venu10 09 Aug 2007 05:59
Dear Christina, If participants are part of God, isn't God part of the participants? Thus God is not an outsider.
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God and Consciousness
venu10 09 Aug 2007 06:14
Dear Janus, The idea that there is a God out there who is guiding us and is responsible for us is, I feel, rather infantile. To wonder who created everything is natural but the answer that an external agency, called God, did it is to evade deeper queries on the nature of God. It would be seen, when we go deeper into our notions of God, that the basis of both our questions and answers abide in our consciousness. Therein lies the clue to understand the creator and His creation.
